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2010 U.S. v Canada = 1980 U.S. v Soviet Union? Why It Doesn't, and Why It Does

 

 

 

In light of the upset of the Canadian nation by the 2010 U.S. hockey team, we've seen a smattering of articles including comparisons of this year's game to the Miracle on Ice.  A few journalists trumpeted the great achievement, and more than a few absolutely castigated the said journalists.

 

1980's Miracle on Ice inhabits a sacred realm for many Americans; not so much for Russians.  It's viewed as an untouchable upset, and in many ways it is.  For the United States.  As Behind the Net points out, there's often a lot of ignorance in the American perspective of upsets.  Certainly, Switzerland defeating Canada (indeed, shutting out Canada) at Torino was pretty big.  But the Olympics are inherently about nationalism, so I'm rarely surprised when countries analyze these events through their own goggles (although said goggles are likely Made in China).

 

Before getting into the meat of this post, I want to preface these arguments with two undisputable facts: a.) the 2010 U.S. v Canada game has little to no historical context that could match the 1980 U.S. v Soviet Union game, and b.) the 2010 game had a bit less weight on the final results of the tournament than the 1980 game  (2010: round play that got U.S. into quarter-finals; 1980: semi-finals).  Context certainly elevates the 1980 game.

 

So what about the other argument, that it was (in 1980) a "bunch of college kids" upsetting the best team in the world as oppose to (in 2010) "NHL stars" beating "better NHL stars"?  After the jump, let's look at both sides of the argument of whether, talent-wise, the 1980 game was a greater upset than the 2010 game.

 


Arguments for 1980 U.S. v Soviet Union


The Soviets were the best team in the world.  On numerous occasions in the 1970s, 1980s, and 1990s, the Soviet teams challenged NHL teams and beat them.  In the Super Series (mini-tournaments between NHL & Soviet teams) over this period, the Soviets would win 14 of 18 series.  The team (at the time of the 1980 Olympics) boasted Russian greats Boris Mikhailov, Valeri Kharlamov, Vladimir Petrov, Vladislav Tretiak, and Alexander Maltsev.

 

The U.S. team was a "bunch of college kids."  Indeed they were, in the truest sense, a bunch of amateurs (as they were supposed to be).  Many of the Soviets were considered part of the military to "prove" they were working to provide for themselves and not being paid for hockey.  All of the U.S. team were fresh out of college, with the exceptions of Buzz Schneider and Mike Eruzione, who had both played some minor league hockey (Schneider had played on the 1976 team).

 

The same Soviet team beat the U.S. 10-3 in an exhibition before the Olympics.  Yowza.

 

 

Arguments For 2010 U.S. v Canada


- The 1980 Soviet team was in a transitional period.  A little summary of Soviet hockey history: in 1980, the Soviet team was experiencing a virtual changing-of-the-guard.  Those dominant teams of the 1970s were aging (the average # of pro games after the Olympics for Soviet greats Boris Mikhailov, Valeri Kharlamov, Alexander Maltsev, and Vladimir Petrov before retirement?  39), and in fact had been playing at about 2/3 of their peak production for the 3 years 1978-79 to 1980-81.  The future Soviet greats, Slava Fetisov, Alexei Kasatonov, Sergei Makarov, and Vladimir Krutov, were very young (average age - 20) and not at their peaks, either.  Makarov was close, but the other two were years away (Note: the famed KLM line, including Krutov, Larionov, & Makarov, was not even an idea at the time).  The players that were still playing at a world-class level, including Petrov, Helmuts Balderis, and Vladislav Tretiak, were not as numerous as in previous Olympics.

 

- The 1980 U.S. team's talent is understated.  First of all, of the 18 skaters, 15 had been drafted by NHL teams or both NHL and WHA teams (most in the first 3 or 4 rounds).  No less than 10 would be in the NHL within a year.  College kids?  Yes.  NHL-ready?  Yes.  If you want to evaluate the Soviet team's talent by the future accomplishments of the players, then you cannot deny the high level at which Mike Ramsey, Dave Christian, Mark Pavelich, Ken Morrow, Mark Johnson, Steve Christoff, and Neal Broten played in the most talented league on Earth.

Oh, and the 1980 U.S. team won the gold medal, which I think means they might have played at a high level in the other games, too.


- Tretiak was pulled, Brodeur was not.  The classic Soviet argument was that Tretiak should not have been pulled.  And I've yet to come across someone who has reasoned that to not be a mistake.  The fact of the matter is that his replacement, Vladimir Myshkin, was not particularly good, in part because the Soviets never intended for him to play.  Brodeur, like Tretiak one of the best if not the best goaltender of his era, played the entire game.

 

- The "systems" argument is a wash.  The Soviets had a great system; so did the U.S.  Nine of the members of the U.S. team were former Brooks understudies at Minnesota, and as a team they played 55-65 games together.  The 2010 Canadian and U.S. teams have, in general, not had the time together to perfect a system the likes of which was seen in 1980.

 

- The results are inconclusive as to whether the Soviets were actually the best team in the world at the time.  They may have been the favorites at the Olympics, but they had not consistently shown the ability to defeat the best NHL teams.  Many of what were dubbed the "Super Series" games were played against middling to poor NHL teams (in part because the better NHL teams were afraid they would lose).  In general, Soviet teams compiled a 61.5 winning percentage in the Super Series spanning from 1976 to 1991. On the other hand, two years before and after the 1980 Olympics, the Soviets record was hovering around 50 percent (against mostly middling and poor NHL teams, mind you).  As mentioned before, they were in transition.

 

- The 2010 Canadian team boasts 1 to 2 (if not 3) of the top 5 players in the world at every positionMartin Brodeur, Roberto Luongo, Chris Pronger, Scott Niedermayer, Ryan Getzlaf, Sidney Crosby, Joe Thornton, Duncan Keith, Dany Heatley, Jarome Iginla...the Soviets could not have made a similar claim in 1980.

 

- The 2010 U.S. team would be lucky to have 1 to 2 of the top 10 players in the world at any position.  In general, the comparisons to the above list are Zach Parise, Patrick Kane, and Ryan Miller.  And that's about it. Let's put it this way...among Canadian forwards, seven have produced .95 points per game over the last 3 NHL seasons.  The U.S.?  One (Parise).  The average PPG for Canadian forwards is nearly one point-per, while the Americans sit at a meager .72 PPG.  Even defensively, the disparity is drastic: the 3-year average adjusted +/- for the Canadians in the NHL (which compares a player's +/- to his team's +/-) is nearly two times higher than the Americans.

 

 

As you can probably see, this has been occupying my mind a bit.  While I think the backlash against those comparing 2010 to 1980 for shallow reasons is qualified, I also think that a closer look could actually draw the nature of the upsets a bit closer.  In sum, the 1980 Russians were a tad mythologized, the 1980 Americans a bit too cheekily "underdogged", and the disparity between the 2010 teams too easily dismissed.  The 1980 game will never be matched for context, but "sacredness" of the upset itself could definitely be challenged by the amazing game played by the U.S. team a few nights ago.

 

P.S. Here's the link to the original post at BN.

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